This started out as quick and simple, but there turned out to be more to chew on than I expected.
There’s nothing here that will be a surprise to any experienced patient advocate, but it may be useful to newbies. (If you’re not familiar with our movement, e-patients are Empowered, Engaged in their care, Equipped, Enabled… pick your e. We and our clinicians have a Society for Participatory Medicine, about patient-provider partnerships.)
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I noted two weeks ago that when I got a prescription for new glasses, the optometrist (eye measurement guy) said his eye-puff-tester found high pressure in one eye. Re-tests said yeah, I have high intraocular pressure, which can be a precursor to glaucoma, which can cause blindness. Good example of a simple routine screening test finding something before it becomes a problem. Rx: go to the ophthalmologist (eye doctor, as in MD).
(The high pressure is often caused by failure to drain the fluid (aqueous humor) that’s constantly flowing into the eye… pressure builds up, and can damage the optic nerve, generally starting at the edges – the blindness often starts as a loss of peripheral vision.)
Well, I don’t really have an eye doctor, but the only shop in town (literally) is Nashua Eye Associates, so I called them. I got hooked up with a doctor, who did an exam with a fancier machine and said yeah, I have high pressure in both eyes. But my optic nerve looks fine, and so does the “optical angle,” where the fluid drains. So, no problem yet.
She prescribes eye drops to promote drainage. $9 co-pay. We discuss the two additional tests I need, after which she’ll see me again.
Now:
Expression of e-Patient #1: gimme my data
My primary, Dr. Sands, had asked for a copy of my visit notes so he could incorporate them in his system. I asked the front desk, and they insisted that I sign a HIPAA release form. Privately I rolled my eyes; a HIPAA release is my permission for them to give my data to someone else – not to myself. But this one’s not a fight worth fighting; at least they didn’t resist giving it to me, as some practices do. Yay.
Expression of e-Patient #2: scheduling that works
I call in to schedule the two tests and visit. They say the first date available is May.(!!) I say “If I’m progressing toward glaucoma, I really don’t want to wait three months for the next update.” Some dialog reveals the staff person’s sense that I’m supposed to have both tests and see the doc on the same day, perhaps to avoid multiple trips. But I live 5 minutes away and work at home.
Eventually I ask to speak to a manager. This guy’s sharp and quick; a few questions, and it turns out I can do them separately. Yay: by expressing my needs effectively, we break through the non-existent requirement and I get what I need.
Expression of e-Patient #3: expecting appropriate information
The drops burn the hell out of my eye – redness, itching, swelling. On the second day I say “Enough!” and call to get them changed. I come in, and the doc asks why I want to change, and I cite the burning. She says, “Yes, they do that for the first week.”
What???
Me, approximately: “Was I supposed to know that? … Was there some patient education flyer I was supposed to get, to tell me what to expect? Is there anything I was supposed to do if that happened?”
Her: silence; the look on her face politely suggests “What’s your problem?” And she doesn’t answer, just looks away.
Me, explaining e-patient: “I’m the kind of patient who likes to know what’s going on – I like to understand as much as I can.” She smiles, nods, chuckles a little and orders (online) another prescription. We briefly note my upcoming tests and I leave.
This one’s a $45 co-pay. “Nice of her to warn me,” I think to myself. It’s still not pleasant, but it doesn’t hurt. The eyes itch, but I’m also getting over a cold. I’m careful not to rub the eyeball itself; I have much experience over the years at safely getting grit out of my eyes, lifting the eyelid the right way, etc.
I go off to the HIMSS conference in Las Vegas – an eight day trip.
Expression of e-Patient #4: finding a doctor who’s a good match for my style
Two days ago (Sunday night) it got bad: I got really tormented, could not make it stop being uncomfortable. By bedtime I asked my wife to look. (Veterinarians make a lot less than MDs, but that’s because (he said ironically) they handle all specialties for multiple species :-), so she has plenty of experience at examining mammal eyes that have things in them.)
She sees that I now have a raised lesion on the white of the problem eye, which (with some difficulty) I can see in the mirror. She rinses it with copious amounts of saline solution, which we’d bought the day before. I keep the eye closed and sleep well. In the morning, bang, immediately I call Nashua Eye and ask to see a doc stat.
Happily for me, this time I get someone different: Dr. Riddle. This is my kinda doc: fast, thorough, steady patter of information as he examines my eye, while the tech Holly enters what he’s saying into their EMR. (Which, btw, got upgraded over the weekend and is Not Working At All Well.)
Riddle is my kinda guy. A dye test (which Ginny suspected he’d do) says the eyeball is not scratched (good). He says the lesion is in fact a reaction to the first drops I had, even though I’d only used them two days, two weeks ago; it’s gotten irritated. Twice he asks whether my eyes were examined when I first returned with the burning, as he’d just examined them; no, I say, twice: she just gave me the other prescription. Hm.
He also notes twice that the visit wasn’t recorded in the EMR – they found the new script recorded as a progress note appended to the previous visit. I guess if there was no exam, that might be reasonable, but I don’t know the protocol in their practice.
He also says that whether to treat my level of pressure (25 & 26) is up for debate; some docs do, but treatment always has costs & risks, so he wouldn’t. But considering my reaction to the drops, he suggests ditching the existing drops and just giving me something to treat the irritation.
To him, too, I describe my preference for information and engagement. He’s receptive enough that I progress to describing SPM.
Expression of e-Patient #5: communicating my concerns
I’m asking the practice to change me to be Dr. Riddle’s patient. My remaining test is Thursday, and I’ll see him again. Then I need to let the first doctor know what didn’t work for me, and let the practice manager know.
p.s. Crap, now I gotta get (paper) copies of all those records for Dr. Sands…. boy will I be glad when we have health information exchange, and nifty new software that pulls it all together so this isn’t such a chore! Thanks to the regulators at HHS who are finally carving out the stones that will make that a reality – a few years from now. And thanks to the innovators who will tie it all together – get to work, you guys! How are we supposed to be responsible engaged patients if this is so much work, for us and for the providers??
Dr. Optometrist says
I’d take what this patient says with a very large grain of salt. First, I wish to reply regarding his accusation that Optometrists are simply “eye measurement” guys.
If this were true then a sitting for national boards, state licensure, graduating from an accredited school as a Doctor of Optometry, being held to standards equal to Ophthalmologists, being legally culpable for failure to diagnose, being able to prescribe medications to treat and managage diseases of the eye and orbit, being able to bill Medicare/Medicaid euqally as an ophthalmologists, being able to be credentialed in hospitals…for starters…simply would not be possible if Optometrists were simply “eye measurement people”. That is the definitiion of a technician, not a Doctor.
What credentials does this accusatory patient have? Oh, access to Google doesn’t count. Knowledge is quite dangerous to the ignorant. An elevated intra-ocular pressure does not mean glaucoma. Note that even Glaucoma sub-specialists may take months to diagnose a patient with glaucoma.
I sure hope future patients responding in this forum are not so quick to slam those health care providers they meet without a more dual-sided perspective. Most people in healthcare went into the profession to help others, not cause pain or embarrass their patients. I believe patients should have an equal responsibility to those who are earnestly trying to care for them.
Sincerely,
Dr. Optometrist
e-Patient Dave says
Hi, Dr. Optometrist! It’s me, the (not really) accusatory patient!
I’m WIDE open to education. I know almost nothing about this field, and in fact my simplified description (which you’re the first to correct, thank you) is exactly what others have told me – that the ophthalwhatever is the MD and the optometrist isn’t. I can easily understand that that would be sensitive.
It wasn’t my intention to be accusatory at all – apologies if that’s how it came across. I’d welcome a link or two that explains.
(Who did you see that was “quick to slam”? Yours is the first comment. And, although I didn’t discuss it, I very much like my optometrist.)
Best,
Dave
Brad says
I find it astonishing that when this patient wants to be treated like a customer and is clearly articulating how they want to interact with their doctor, they are negatively labelled. Then when the patient does what good customers do, moves to someone else who can provide them with service they want to be treated, it’s a bad thing.
I was further astonished when the first comment is a critique on the nuances of who is the doctor. What about the more poignant issues of communication with the patient, care plan associated with prescriptions, scheduling, proper usage of the EMR to ensure the data has been entered appropriately to be used effectively.
I hope one day these issues will move to the forefront of the discussion.
Amy Price says
I would be thankful most of all for the veterinarian who did not even get paid! Dr. Optometrist how would you fix the problem? Patient bashing and Doctor status escalating won’t fix the eye or the other issues stated here.
I don’t think the patient mentioned Googling or he would have found a systematic review saying the same thing as Dr Riddle who states it as being a judgement call to treat and shares the caution against over medicating against adverse effects.
I personally have found Dr. Optometrists extremely skilled and helpful. Doctors that listen are the best!