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Search Results for: basal cell

May 21, 2012 By e-Patient Dave 86 Comments

Raw numbers for treating my basal cell carcinoma at three hospitals

The morning-after edits, originally marked in italics, have been “accepted” (to borrow Word’s term) to show the final text.

Here are the results of my cost shopping research to get my skin cancer (basal cell carcinoma, aka BCC) removed. The first edition was done in a hurry because the #bcsm (breast cancer social media) Twitter chat was happening, discussing costs and shopping, and they asked to see it.

It started in February when I decided to be proactive about finding out what this would cost me. I have $10,000 deductible insurance, so this is all coming out of my pocket. In previous months I’d gotten sick & tired of getting unexpected medical bills, and people at the hospital and insurance companies having wrong answers or no answers about “What’s this going to cost?” (CT scan, shingles vaccines)  So, this time I published an RFP (request for proposals), the same way any business would do when making a substantial purchase decision. The RFP started:

Summary: I seek a care partner to remove a basal cell carcinoma (BCC) from my left jawline, under the ear. For a brief introduction, see blog post and photo (low quality) at http://bit.ly/ePDaveBCC.

I’m educating myself about the condition, I want to explore the available treatment options, and I’m “shopping” for a partner to do the work and follow-up with a good combination of quality, partnership, and cost.

It was a crazy thing to do, because hospitals don’t have RFP response departments (as many businesses do), and I was sure my request was largely uninformed. But I sure learned a lot from the comments on that blog post.

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Filed Under: cost cutting edition, decision making 86 Comments

New Orleans investigative reporters expose health cost craziness, with ClearHealthCosts

Click to see the Times-Picayune article
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Video of the first episode is below.

Last updated April 10, 9:30 pm ET.

Regular readers know that among my various causes – patient-centered care, patient access to our medical records, etc – is the importance and challenge of managing our health costs. For years I’ve blogged about my own experience – see the list of posts below. Occasionally I’ve blogged about my friends at ClearHealthCosts, who have been busting their butts to … well, make health costs clear. And for years I’ve wished we had more public attention on this crazy situation. Because when costs are chaotic, it can be hard to get the care your family needs without getting hurt in the process. How ironic is that?

So I’m thrilled to say that WVUE in New Orleans (“Fox 8 NOLA”) started a new series April 5, “Cracking the Code: The Real Cost of Health Care,” followed immediately by a print series by the Times-Picayune‘s Jed Lipinski.  From what I’ve seen so far, each is spot-on. ClearHealthCosts is a big part of the project.

To my surprise a simple Skype interview that I did was used in the first TV episode. I can’t wait to see more.

It’s all new so for the moment I’m quickly adding this page to my site … I’ll update it when I can. For now, here’s video of the first episode, and below are my past posts on health costs. I hope it helps.

FOX 8 WVUE New Orleans News, Weather, Sports, Social

My past posts on figuring out health costs

You can also browse my entire cost-cutting category.

4/12/16: The difficulty of shopping when they hide the facts: that skin cancer RFP in the NY Times

9/11/15: Article in USA Today soon with my opinion on costs, and online advice

3/11/14: How much should/could this pathology cost? (Skin cancer biopsies)

2/7/14: A new era: the “consumer-patient,” via Inquire Healthcare

6/5/13: “Chaos, behind a veil of secrecy”: Show me the cash flow

4/25/13: The reality of shopping for health insurance (pre-Obamacare)

3/25/13: An encounter with the Swiss medical system

3/11/13: The Big Ugly continues: “Hospital charges bring a backlash”

3/4/13: Let Patients Help, Cost-Cutting Edition: “Chaos behind a veil of secrecy”

1/6/13: Pricing visibility – video interview with HealthWorks Collective

12/11/12: Reprise: The healthcare waste pit is BIGGER than the fiscal cliff.

11/11/12: Great Robert Wood Johnson video “This Cost How Much?”

10/1/12: Perceptions creating reality: the scapegoat dynamic and the role of the patient

6/16/12: A dermatologist responds: “Who the heck is charging $3000 for Mohs first stage?”

5/21/12: Raw numbers for treating my basal cell carcinoma at three hospitals

5/10/12: Decision: Just scrape it off. (“ED&C”)

3/25/12: Let Patients Help, Cost-Cutting Edition, Part 3: Shopping for my next CT scan

2/20/12: It turns out being an engaged patient/consumer takes time.

2/11/12: I’ve started an RFP for my skin cancer

2/9/12: Time to practice what I preach: I have skin cancer again.

1/9/12: Let Patients Help, Cost-Cutting Edition, part 2: Shingles vaccine

11/5/11: Let Patients Help, Cost-Cutting Edition, part 1: a bill.

 

 

 

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Top posts and articles by e-Patient Dave

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  • Gimme My DaM Data: the video, the story, the next speech
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  • “Chaos, behind a veil of secrecy”: Show me the cash flow
  • Request for Proposals: remove a basal cell carcinoma
  • Patient Engagement and Empowerment: A Culture War Begins (lecture at MITRE)
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March 11, 2014 By e-Patient Dave 64 Comments

How much should/could this pathology cost? (Skin cancer biopsies)

I’m going to START with three clarifications, because sometimes people don’t read footnotes. :-)  Read before proceeding.

  • I’m NOT saying there’s anything wrong here – don’t anyone assume that every time I blog, it’s a warpath. :)  I’m just asking a question. My guiding principle on medical treatments and costs is that people should know what their options are, so I’m presenting my situation and asking.
  • I’m also NOT asking for treatment advice – I’m only asking about costs and whether it sometimes makes sense to get pathology done elsewhere. (We’ve already discussed treatments and I’m satisfied.)
  • As I’ve said before, I’m NOT recommending that anyone else act as I choose to.

Also, regular readers know that as a former cancer patient in New Hampshire, my insurance options were limited, and I chose $10,000 deductible, so all of this will come out of my pocket. As I’ve blogged many times before, this turns out to be a nifty way to discover how the money actually flows in American healthcare, which is usually really hard to find out.
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Below is the pathology report from some biopsies I got in January. The bill is $416 list price; after the usual insurance discount, my balance due is $312.

My questions:
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Filed Under: cost cutting edition, decision making 64 Comments

April 25, 2013 By e-Patient Dave 6 Comments

The reality of shopping for health insurance

Graph of the numbers

I keep hearing disparaging things about what lousy consumers patients are – unable to understand how things work, unable to understand the options. Well, as I often say in my speeches, in any other industry you go out of business if consumers don’t understand you – because customers ditch you. But in medicine we consumers can’t easily do that. Heck, we can hardly get our hands on information in the first place.

Case in point: when I shopped for health insurance in 2011, I found out just how slanted the table is when companies offer insurance and consumers buy it. Here’s the true story of the information I was given.

1. Cancer? You can’t play in our market – go away.

First, Blue Cross of New Hampshire asked if I’d ever had various things. When I said cancer, they went from cordial & friendly to cold and “go away.” It was rude, frankly.

But at least I could get at the high risk pool. Some states won’t let people like me get ANY insurance without a six month waiting period. (Up yours, states. And up yours, regulators in those states.)

2. Here are your options. Figure it out yourself.

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Filed Under: cost cutting edition, patient engagement 6 Comments

June 16, 2012 By e-Patient Dave 9 Comments

A dermatologist responds: “Who the heck is charging $3000 for Mohs first stage?”

Well, that’s not exactly what he said. And I’m not even sure he’s a dermatologist, though it sure sounds like it.

For newcomers, this is the latest in a four month saga, including these posts:

  • Time to practice what I preach: I have skin cancer again. (Feb 9)
  • I’ve started an RFP for my skin cancer (Feb 11)
  • Decision: Just scrape it off (ED&C) (May10)
  • Raw numbers for treating my basal cell carcinoma at three hospitals (May 21)

Today (Saturday 6/16) on the “decision” post, commenter “Joe” (apparently a dermatologist) said the most interesting, thought-provoking stuff I’ve ever seen anywhere about basal cell carcinoma treatment options:
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Filed Under: cost cutting edition, decision making 9 Comments

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