I’m a health data nudist: I don’t care who sees my “privates,” if doing so furthers the cause. And the time has come to push the issue, because my hospital is stonewalling, and that is just so not okay: as comments on my previous post show, this truly impedes care. And that must stop.
To end any mysteries about the much-touted PatientSite portal, in all its 1990s glory, I’ve decided to publish a complete 15-minute walk-through of everything in my chart, when I’m logged in PatientSite at Beth Israel Deaconess, the hospital that magnificently saved my life ten years ago.
Imagine yourself as a family in trouble, trying to gather a family member’s information during a crisis, so you can seek additional help or just understand more. How would you react to BIDMC’s Chief Information Officer, Dr. Halamka, blogging that they’ve offered “all patients, all data since 1999”?
Heck, we didn’t even have OpenNotes until 2012, and even then it was only for primary care, not specialists.
Or imagine you’re a software developer who wants to go about “screen scraping” (robotically clicking everything) to collect all my data, to develop better software to view and organize it. I say that because several of them have asked me for help in this, so here it is. Would you like to write code to do this?
Dear John: if I’m missing anything, by ALL means let me know – seriously. So far in our exchange you’ve offered no corrections, so I’m proceeding assuming that so far I haven’t missed anything, and there really is no way to do what you slanderously said no patient has ever tried to do. But if I’m missing something – particularly an API that would let any other hospital or developer get all my data – then by all means show us the link.
Citizens, if your hospital is stonewalling you, visit the excellent GetMyHealthData.org for legal and practical advice on what to do. It’s your right!
Recap of this exchange so far
This is the next in a series in which I challenge my hospital’s CIO, my friend Dr. John Halamka, to either back up what he claimed about patients, or revoke it, and in any case to deliver what he implied he offers, in June: the ability to download our records. I have decided I’m not going to let go of this, because his assertions have influenced opinions incorrectly – several people have grapevined to me that people are quoting you on this, John. That is so not okay – you’re influential, and false statement hold back progress.
Previous posts:
- June 2016: John blogged that “not one [patient] has ever requested a download” [at BIDMC] and cross-posted a version on MedCity News.
- November 7: I replied Dear John: *I* want to download my records.
- November 9: He replied in a post mysteriously titled What is patient and family engagement? – “mysteriously” because instead of answering its own question, the post puts up an almost Trump-like diversionary wall, changing the subject.
- November 22 : I replied in Dear John: I still want to download my records! Gimme My DaM Data!, saying also that I was finished with asking nicely; “I’m ready to call it non-negotiable demands.”
This video is a follow-up, to show exactly what I’m talking about. As I say in Let Patients Help, clarity is power.
In summary:
Repeating my non-negotiable questions:
- If you don’t have one, your assertion implodes and you have no case and you must rescind.First, let’s stick to my original question: Where is the download link you say [at right] nobody has ever used?? Your June post used that as an argument to say Meaningful Use was premature, but that’s bogus: you don’t have the link you say nobody has used.
- What does your view of “patients typically” have to do with we who do want our raw data??
- Who are you to decide what data we should get and what platform we should use?
- That’s what’s known as paternalism: “You don’t know what’s best – I do. I’ll decide for you.”
- You’re opting for iOS. What about patients with real medical problems, who don’t have that platform? As I said in the post, iOS only serves a minority.
I know you love Apple – me too: my family has 2 Macs, 2 iPhones, 2 iPads. It’s fine with me if you develop iOS tools that will totally kick butt. But that doesn’t help the majority of patients with medical problems. They will still need their data.
So while you work on iOS, my original need still stands: Give us our data. All our data.
Your turn. Please change your policy. No, not “please.” This has become a non-negotiable demand. I say your policy is impeding best possible care.
Develop the world’s greatest iOS tool, if you want. Meanwhile, GIVE US ALL OUR DATA. Who are you to say paternalistically that we don’t know what’s best for us?
Robert D. Coli, MD says
Dear Dave,
This is very discouraging information about patients’ continued inability to EASILY download and transmit cumulative diagnostic test results and Office Visit notes text from the tethered PHR of one of the nation’s leading homegrown EHRs.
Unfortunately, the same problem exists with my tethered PHR records since 2011 at DHMC, where I am able to download or transmit only two documents,
• the Consolidated-CDA (C-CDA) Personal Health Record Summary (a PDF or XDM file) and
• the Continuity of Care Record (CCR) document (a PDF or XDM file) , a Visit Summary for each ambulatory care visit.
Here’s what is posted on DHMC’s Epic EHR and tethered PHR Patient Portal:
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Download your PERSONAL HEALTH RECORD Summary:
View, Print or Share (Transmit) your Medical Record
Click one of the boxes below to view or print your PERSONAL HEALTH RECORD SUMMARY including your allergies, medications, current health issues, procedures and diagnostic test results (in non-cumulative, chronological order), and immunizations.
You also can put your medical record on a USB or “thumb” drive and take it with you to share with your other healthcare providers. You can also preview Your record.
Your Record, or
Your Record with Password Protection
Conveniently share your health information with anyone, including your family and your healthcare provider.
Download Now
If you take your Lucy record on a thumb drive to a different doctor, he or she might be able to use his computer to read the file electronically. Your downloaded, machine-readable Personal Health Record Summary document is in a format called “C-CDA.” If your doctor has a computer that understands C-CDA, your information is a folder on your thumb drive called MachineReadable_XDMFormat. You might need to enter a password before your doctor can use this file.
VISIT SUMMARIES:
Click on a row to review a VISIT SUMMARY of that appointment. This information is available 72 hours after the appointment. If you do not see your visit summary, please send a message to your provider’s office directly.
The means you can view and download a more comprehensive summary of your visit. You can also send a summary of your visit electronically to another provider by clicking on the . If you don’t see any icons, then the summary for your visit is not yet available.
Date/Time Description Department Action
Friday July 22, 2016 1:40 PM
Office Visit with XXXXX General Internal Medicine
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What’s not yet widely recognized or acknowledged by policy makers is that copying and pasting each page you want to transmit and share with someone else into a Word document is currently the only alternative for even the most empowered patients.
Another major problem common to these two Academic Medical Center EHRs and every other ambulatory or inpatient EHR, tethered or untethered PHR or HIE platform I have ever seen to date, is that the results of all diagnostic tests (that are produced in the clinical lab, imaging or other testing facilities) are are still being reported and displayed to both physicians and patients for their viewing and sharing as INCOMPLETE and FRAGMENTED data, either:
1) in chronologic order (descending or ascending), or
2) using an antiquated, hard to read cumulative test results reporting format that hasn’t been improved since medical computing began in the 1960s.
Dave, your posting and its embedded video slide show is a great start! Maybe we can chat sometime about some possible options for a grass roots social media collaboration in 2017 to help overcome this major data access, usability and interoperability and patient safety barrier to maximizing the efficiency of the participatory medicine practice model.
All the best,
Bob Coli, MD
Plainfield, NH
e-Patient Dave says
Hi, Bob – long time.
A LOT of companies are now working on the problem of screen-scraping and otherwise extracting our data from various sites. I hope they’ll start chiming in here so we can get some attention and energy on the problem.https://www.epatientdave.com/wp-admin/edit-comments.php?p=12270#comments-form